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Google Translate works well! Thank you. I have some DALIA and they all have Tekno on the baseplate, even the Taunus van with the Dalia style wheels. i have MPC Strip n Steer and they are KIRK. i have a few WALCO boxes and they are both KIRK ans TEKNO, but they can be easily replaced over time, right?
I think but have no real proof that Tekno did a marketing agreement with Dalia, Solido, and Walco. Then Kirk did one with MPC. I think that Joal and Pilen had no agreements with Tekno or Kirk and just copied their designs without permission… That us just me opinion; too bad we have no documentation from that time, except for some Solido and Dalia catalogs.
Stroget (Karl in Indianapolis USA)
I also have the same questions about Dalia and for how long it was connected to Tekno. MPC (Model Products) was a large American company that was famous for 1/24 plastic kits and other toys. I think they must have had the US distributorship for Tekno/Kirk and Walco had the German?
The MPC ad from above was in Boy Scout magazines – I remember it and bought some in a toy store in the US in 1968 or 1970 (when I was a child).
Fascinating Joal and Dalia discussion! HJW – I never noticed the Tekno and Joal rear bumpers were that different. I opened the trunks and saw that they are also attached differently inside.
I have a Joal with regular screw, and one with Phillips screw that has a hole in the mmiddle to screw it to a clear display case and base.
Thank you for the photo. I got both my Lion Cars Made in Denmark more than 12 years ago from ebay. Then just last year, a collector friend in Copenhagen found another at a flea market! He sold it to me for a very good price! They look identical to the Holland castings except for the baseplate words.
Here it is next to a Vilmer Bedford dump truck.
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There are 2 books published in Dutch on Lion Toys and Lion Cars. They both talk about a few of the cars being made in Denmark because of import restrictions. I am not clear if they were cast or assembled from parts.
1956 OPEL Rekord
1956 DKWI think Molberg and Lion are linked somehow – the same factory? Their Massey Ferguson has both names on the base. The same Lion symbol and name is on the Mercedes race car and FORD Taunus 1000 van. The car and van have MOLBERG tires! The one in the middle is the Tekno to compare…
The Lion symbol is different from the Lion Toys from Holland so I think they are a different company. (The other Lions are copies of the Dutch cars made in Denmark.) These Lion (Molberg) were never made in Holland.
I have the Patton tank with regular Solido yellow box with red Tekno sticker on the end. The base of the tank does not have ribs like yours. Azema (1983) says the 1st version was 1962-1965. Then they modified the base to take a remote control unit. It lasted from 1965-1982 with and without the remote control.
Without the red sticker on the box, one will never know if it is a Tekno, because we do not know how many versions or how long they sold them. I see no difference in the early Solido or Tekno versions of the tank itself.
I never saw a 1969/70 catalog! Was there one? The Tekno Made in Holland 77/78 catalog has a drawing of it. I have seen it sold in both the last Tekno Denmark window box and the yellow/blue Dutch box.
Johansen og Hedegaard (2007) say it is 1965-72 but I think it is much newer than that! Maybe 1972 which is why it was never in a catalog?
What a nice old Post bus – here are more photos… http://www.historytoy.com/Tippco-930-Mail-bus#.U-_LTN7D-28
1957-1969?
Thank you for the good posts. That is why I think the “Danske Modlebiler” book from Johansen and Hedegard (2002) is so special.
https://bibliotek.kk.dk/ting/object/710100%3A42833444
Even if they are dealers or auctioneers, they made the information available on so many unknown Danish manufacturers. Four Tobi Toy ads are published in their book, for instance. You must get a copy, if it is still possible. I assume their information (dates, etc) are a best guess since no other documentation was available to them.
A great discussion from months ago. Can I resurrect it and add some photos?
Tobi (grey)versus Tekno (red)! Every part is just a little different, so who copied whom? Was Tobi really one year earlier? If Langes made both, why change every part? This is fun to ponder!
Here are my FIRE DEPT trucks from USA.
They were obtained in the 1990s probably from ebay USA.
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm12/kschnelle/tekno/TeknoTriangelfire2x.jpgI just measured my Tekno – well this one’s a Kirk – and the cab is 1/43 scale in width and length! Well done, Kirk!
All the ‘Dodges’ together (but really are Chevy):
large Tekno, medium Vilmer, medium Tekno, small Vilmer, small Tekno
I have a photocopy of the announcement from Legetojs-Tidende (perhaps) from Maj 1970. NYED SAAB 99 kr 12.75 and it says it will be in Anders And on 23 juni!
I hope this helps.
I have a similar photo to Teknoib. It is: large Tekno, medium Vilmer, medium Tekno, small Vilmer, small Tekno
Four different sizes! The medium Tekno and Vilmer are the same xact casting – some say the grills go different directions but these are the same and do not look they are replaced. Their names are on the baseplates and Tekno has an extra cross brace under the rear axle! Have you noticed?
Black Maria – I had to google to find out where the name came from. It could have been named after a race horse (Harlem, 1826) or a woman who ran a boarding house. Her name was Maria and she was African-American (Boston, 1820s). She was very strict and was more feared than the Police! I like that story better than the horse! The newspaper or someone then named the carriage that took prisoners to jail as the “Black Maria”!
I did look around for what the TEKNO large dodge was based on after I obtained a Lego CHEVROLET – they look too similar to be different trucks. The large Tekno is a Chevrolet from 1950s, like this 1952: http://www.purplewaveauction.com/a/2010/20100331ag/3461.JPG . So I think Lego got it right and maybe Tekno copied and changed it to a DODGE? 1950 DODGEs look like this: http://home.comcast.net/~jobrated/Big_Dodge_painted.jpg
So, then Vilmer or Tekno brought out the medium sized “DODGE” as a toy version of the large Chevy. This is just my theory. Same for the min-DODGE by Tekno, just a bad or toy copy of their large one.
I am sorry I can not write in Danish, but I have collected Tekno since I was a kid in the summers in Denmark and now I live in USA. I have a copy of a catalog from Canada from that era, so I think Tekno sold many cars in US and Canada. 20-30 years ago at the toy shows there were many Dodge for sale – all 3 sizes. Vilmer Dodge as well – both sizes.
Danish fire trucks in the US? These were sold as toys so most kids did not care if it was a Ford or a Triangel, I think. Black Maria is a very old word from the 1800s for a prisoner van or carriage from New York City or Boston – not used anymore.
Karl
