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Nej det har jeg heller ikke… Vejbanen er det eneste indtil Anders And bladene også reklamerede for Indianerspillet.
Jeg er dog meget interesseret i om MORO legetøj har lavet andet før 1961 eller efter 1968 eller i perioden mellem årstallene.
Når man sammenligner luftfots af adr. fra 1954 og 2018, så er det et temmeligt stort hus der blev bygget i 1967 – mens MORO eksisterede – og der burde have været andet i produktion end en lege vej og et spil som ingen har hørt om !Grøn metallic — DET har jeg aldrig set før.
OG det er ikke en gang hammerlak som det ellers er normalt i de tidlige Tekno metallic farver.
Tror det er den eneste Metallic farvede Tekno bil for perioden før 1948. Det gør den i mine øjne mere spændende end de andre.OH — By the way – the Tekno MB 230SL -250SL – 280SL is from 1963 to 1972 but —-
Tekno was sold in 1969.
The Mercedes model was manufactured by a small company – H. Langes Legetøj A / S – which exclusively manufactured toys for Tekno according to an agreement entered into for the period 1949-69.
H.Langes Legetøj A / S was bought by Kirk telefoner (later Kirk telecom) Therefore, MB 280SL only came with the name KIRK at the bottom 1969-71 — but in 1971 / 72-72 the years overlap, the car was published again as Tekno.
This is because Tekno was bought in 1969 by a company called “Algrema” which already in 1970/71 bought the toy department of KIRK phones.
With that in mind, the white boxes will probably only be from 1963-69Trix was reportedly merged with Märklin at one point, but they had patented a advanced metal building set. As far as I know, Tekno did not export the kits made in Denmark.
I gave you the stories of the other things to put it a little in relief to the rigid guidelines you describe. We can then continue with Lesney-Matchbox, which has probably produced more cars than Mercedes. 😉 They were busy so they made a 4×4 model. It was an IH Scout. It was pretty much production ready, but they unexpectedly got NO from International H. New name for the model – Field Car … Something similar happened for a “The” brand on a Veteran car model.
I have to correct you about the 100 years … It was some 65-75 years in the 1950-60s Now I have no intentions of discussing whether the Disney story is correct or not. However, this is how the story is told by former employees of Tekno and the Swedish Tekno importer. And thats facts.
I also have no intentions of discussing how the Bohnstedt-Petersen family has managed the inheritance, because that is a completely irrelevant matter.
However, the fact is what we have in hand – Mercedes cars and boxes made in Denmark by Tekno Denmark. 230SL from 1963 too 250SL, 1966 and then 280SL 1967-69. AND yes they all three came in the box.Bohnstedt-Petersen has probably used the box for so long, in combination with MB 75 years and own anniversaries, for starting a business, starting car sales, imports, or/and starting up assembly plants, importing and assembly plants for Mercedes cars and trucks, etc. My father, as an engineer, made a number of car sales houses and workshops, including Mercedes workshops for passenger cars and trucks at the time. Incidentally, it was not for Bohnstedt-Petersen, but Henry Petersen a relatively large dealer, now named Ejner Hessel. In that connection, I got a red 230SL open in that white box.
You threw the ball yourself and wanted information. You’ve got it. I do not think more can be pumped out.
But it is interesting what you write, and in that connection one can wonder why MB. have not done anything about it!
But it may be because the boxes were only for Danish dealers, who together probably did not sell more cars than a dealer in Hamburg or Bon.I do not think that one can transfer how to make toys in the 1950s and 1960s to today regarding advertising topics.
I do not know but I will definitely think that Tekno has received permits for the cars in DK. Tekno has definitely been confidence in that general importers, and assembly plant companies (Ford, GM, Mercedes-Benz and DKW) have had the background in order. Volvo, Saab and Scania, I have a feeling that they spoke directly with the factories.
The example VW Herbi from the 1969 movie. Tekno could not get an agreement with Disney in Denmark, so the agreement regarding that model happened via Disney in Sweden. – not Disney US –
Tekno also had an agreement with German Trix, all the way back from 1929/30-1972 and that agreement has not even been written down, as far as is known.
And perhaps the most important thing is that Tekno did not make Mercedes and DKW cars at all. They were all manufactured by a small company – H. Langes Legetøj A / S – which exclusively manufactured toys that could only be sold by Tekno in accordance with an agreement between Tekno and H.Langes Legetøj A / S
Things were different in the 1950s and 1960s. To take Lion Toys in Holland. They made different cars, like VW 1200, Renault Dauphin, DKW 3 = 6/1000S and more. Scale approx. 1:50 and they were made according to available car brochure material without being asked for permission.
To be honest, I do not think they thought much about it, they just produced some toys, and were really good at it.
Regarding the Vilmer MB.
To be completely honest, I can not in my wildest imagination, believe that Vilmer has negotiated with anyone other than Bohnstedt-Petersen. But I do not know. But apart from a Volvo 444 and a Lambretta scooter, all Vilmer’s toy cars and tractors are as real things assembled or produced in Denmark. So it will seem natural that Vilmer has only received permits from Danish companies.I mean that the name Bohnstedt-Petersen is on all the Tekno Mercedes boxes both 180, 220 Ambulance, the 220, 300SL, 230/250/280SL, the truck the garbage truck and the bus. AND then Bohnstedt-Petersen also had a license to manufacture the KUKA waste shredder and the box for the truck, which is also available as Tekno. Finally, Bohnstedt-Petersen also assembled DKW so that the name also appears on the DKW Junior box. DKW became later a part of the MB group. Bohnstedt-Petersen also had the negotiation of an aircraft, therefore they also had an airfield. Teknos Mercedes 300SL and 230/250/280SL were sold in Germany by Walco in France by Solido, in Spain by Dalia and in the USA by MPC.
Bohnstedt-Petersen was started in 1911, and continuously represented various cars and motorcycles, as well as an importer and assembly plant for like, AJS, Renault, Chrysler and Piper aircraft and more. from 1934 it was Mercedes and Autounion for which they were general importers, and for which an assembly plant had been established, for the North. For DKW, the production included everything except the imported technical parts such as engine.
Tekno should probably be able to receive orders, or in some other way negotiate with such a company, without following up by asking for a OK in Stuttgart, afterwards.
If you take a strong magnifying glass and look at the dashboard in the 280SL model, there is 230SL in the mold in the middle. On the base and on the rear it says 230SL or 250SL or 280SL. And it was a toy car for healthy boys, not a model for dad, and it worked for the purpose.Jeg tror at interessen mangler grundet underlige farver og den manglende faste skala størrelse. Corgi modellerne har jeg også og de er særligt gode, og alle i samme skala, så man kan fornemme bilernes indbyrdes størrelser. Men der kom kun 4-5 stk.af dem i 1960´rne, og prisen var vel nok 3x højere end de forholdsvis billige Matchbox biler.
Nu tror de fleste jo nok at Matchbox levede af de små biler. Men det var imidlertid veteranterne der bar virksomgeden økonomisk oppe i flere år, så samler verdi har der altid været uden for DK. De der skrækkelige krom biler på billigt porselæn og blik mv. har nok mest været til USA 😉 Jeg har dog set et par af dem i en tobaks forretning i 1960´rne.
Alle Matchbox veteranerne har været særlige i automobilhistorien, og det vil nok kræve at man er til det. Med undtagelse af de sidste især efter, sent i 1970´rne, hvor det mest af alt drejede sig om reklame indtægter, og hele serier for at please Amerikanerne. Og serie som brandbiler osv. sælger ikke uden for USA. De sidste biler var heller ikke særligt godt designet, de er nærmest forfærdelige, karikatur.
Et er helt sikkert med en 1:1 af veteranerne. Nul elektronik og Nul computer, men ren mekanik, der justeres med fingerspitzgefühl, lyttende øren, og foden på pedalerne, der mærker vibrationerne.Yeep –Og Såååå det billigt at samle på dem 😉 Ikke over 100 kr mint box hvis man er lidt heldig. Nogen er til lastbiler og andre til veteraner, vi er bare ikke så mange i Danmark. Er med i en fjæsbog gruppe for disse fordoms køretøjer i model og legetøjs skala. De rigtige var faktisk ude som EL-biler helt fra starten.
Men Matchbox modellerne er som de små 1-75 biler, king size osv. –BOX skala– de skal passe i æsken frem for en skala, hvilket altid har været et irritations moment for mig. Men de er så gode i støbningen, står faktisk ikke tilbage for Tekno i den retning. Se foto af min gamle Ford nede fra — Der står faktisk FORD på gearkassen —
Dem fra Safir, Gama osv. ligner noget fra Professor Baltharzars Værksted. Og så er det meget interessant at dykke ned i spørgsmålet om, Hvorfor blev Veteranbilerne populære i 1950´rne og 60´rne. Som bil puder, billeder, tryk på alt fra tandkrus, kagedåser, over kaffestel, husgeråd osv, osv. Jeg er ikke nået til et svar endnu. Og så skal man ikke glemme film som “på tur med guenevie” – “Tog til Tit field” – Chity-chity-Bang-Bang” eller TV-serier som fx. “the Avengers” eller introen/logo olign. til fx. “The Prisoner” Det findes alt sammen på You-Tupe. Forresten stod Tekno ikke tilbage for Veteranbil bølgen. Mercedes biler udkom jo i en jubi. box med veteranbiler på 😉NÅ – katalog siden var for stor så jeg har gjort den mindre og klippet foto og tekst ud… Ko og bil sælges hver for sig.
Haveman – julen 1960
No new tools have been made for the Tekno cars. One has just added a few little things that are easy to add.
There is the extra strut on the chassis. That is the only difference on the top part and it is not a problem to add in the casting tool.
The bottom of the Tekno model has longer travel for the turning system. The longer curved hole is like the extra rivet and small differences at the rear axle and kadan also not a problem to make on an existing mold. These are small changes that take an hour for a machinist to make.These are simple LANGES TOY scams, as it has been done before with e.g. TOBI. It looks like that anyway, and Lange had probably hoped that it went well again.
Or has a secret agreement been made between Lange and Christiansen? It’s spin but you can never know for sure.
Den er god nok Flemming. Har set et sted at Volvo julene er fra Mainhardts Maskinfabrik og Aalborg arrest.
Jaguar hjulene er efter dem, af en tredie der købte overskudet men havde kun Jaguar hjul.There is a lot of guesswork about. Vilmer’s start.
I think. but do not know for sure.
Kaj Christiansen (Vilmer) was a toolmaker at Lange’s Toys.
Kaj invented the turning system which, as far as is known, is unique for toy cars of that size.
As I understand it, Kaj found premises for the manufacture of his cars, but had to give up his business due to the fire brigade’s ban on metal casting in the building.
Then what do you do ? goes over to your old employer, Lange’s Toys, and gets cast cars.
Kaj Christiansen develops a more likeable car but stays with Chevrolet, and launches the 1955-56 Chevrolet Task Force models.
I would think that the old truck, called the Dodge, was supposed to go out. Lange sees his cut to “borrow” it and put Tekno’s name at the bottom. A lawsuit comes out of that.
There has probably been an agreement, between Tekno and Vilmer, regarding. the continued production. Vilmer had already come up with a new Chevrolet model, and almost also a Bedford S “Type” and then Vilmer also made an extensive series of mini trucks. These exist both without and with suspension, as well as with steerable front wheels.
I would think that all the “big” truck (Dodge) models are made by Lange’s Toys, both for Vilmer and for Tekno.They are made in the same place and therefore probably also in the same casting tool. SO – the difference is the same.
OK Flemming — Så genbruger du ikke safterne ? hvis det skal være varmt vand tænker jeg.
Uffe jeg bruger altid grunder både udv. og indv. for at være sikker på at holde pest og/eller Ir, alternativt rust, på afstand.
Nu er det ikke af stor betydning på blik presenninger,men jeg ridser aldrig i overfladerne, og jeg sliber heller aldrig.. Det er små biler med små detaljer så !
I glasset er min sæbespån opløsning. Det er bare at tage en lille klat op og vaske biler med.. Konsistensen er som tyk creme.
Jeg har lige købt 3 kasser veteranbiler. Der gik 9 ind i samlingen og nogen sælges andre er direkte til skrotkassen og så skal jeg vidst igang med ombygnings processen… MEN
Her er ikke Zinkpest men IR… og rust på akslerne…
Problemet er at jern og plastik ikke kan enes med støbematerialet. Så begynder det at ruste og irer – koger op og bobler…
Den brune bil er fra 1969.. Den sort/røde er noget nyere samme model. Den har ud over et IR problem også noget der ligner pest under lakken på fronten.Sæbespåner dur ikke— Der er dog fortræffelige at vaske gammelt legetøj af i… Lav en tyk blanding i et syltetøjsglas… Så er de bare at snuppe lidt når der skal vaskes biler — Spånerne skader ikke og de kan tilføre lidt fedt til overfladen der kun går tingene kønnere…
Brunsæbe skal naturligvis være den tykke. En solid klat klaskes godt rundt om bilen det skader ikke noget plastik eller gummi. Pak så bilen luft tæt ind i cellofan og vent….. Hmmm tjek ….. Vent lidt længere …. Måske skal du vente til dagen efter ?,, Ikke længere. Det plejer at lykkes inden for 3-4 timer.
Man kan gnide på indpakningen og se om malingen lader sig gnide ud. Så er den ved at være der.
Især Matchbox bliver skadet i original lakken. Tekno er lige glad originalen skades ikke. Alm overmaling opløses normalt.
Tror det var Bertel der nævnte han brugte den tynde — Det kan jeg ikke få til at virke ?
Bremsevæske virker bedst på noget der er relativt ny malet hvis noget skal gøres om så er det en let løsning der er knapt så skrap for brugerens finger som kautisk soda, som jeg iøvrigt heller ikke kunne få til at virke.(Det virker dog fint blandet med tapet klister på gamle møbler)
Og børster altid Messing – ja, eller en tandbørste, opvaskebørste.
Jeg starter med at fjerne gammel maling. Alt andet end den originale lak plejer at kunne fjernes med et tykt lag brunsæbe, og bilen pakket ind i plastfolie. Virker det ikke så prøver jeg med bremsevæske. Ellers er malingsfjerner ok. Bremsevæsken er rigtig god på noget ny malet der skal gøres om.
Er bilen skilt ad og alt plast, gummi. træ osv. fjernet kan den efterfølgende få en tur i opvaskemaskinen når den alligevel køre, det kan udtørre malingsrester der så lige er til at fjerne.
Jeg polere med en sort poler svamp – den VVS´ren bruger inden der skal loddes kobber rør sammen – fås i byggemarkeder – Brug ikke en grønrens fra køkkenet eller lign, for de ridser, og pas meget på med ståluld.
Så en grundig aftørring med sprit.
Plejer at spraymale.men har et airbrush sæt jeg ikke har prøvet endnu.
Generelt bruger jeg grunder på spray, og klar lak på spray. De to er generelt til alle modeller jeg har finger i. Krom findes i spray til fx. jule pynt. Kan sprøjtes i et låg og påføres med pensel. Ellers en krom tush pen til staferinger olign.
Som Flemming siger – Jeg sliber aldrig for det giver ridser.
Man kan bruge en messingbørste på en hurtigsliber — ALDREI en stålbørste og ALDREI en fiberbørste for de ridser.Uden Tekno navn 1969-72 og de har også altid mustang hjul… Efter 1972 – i dag, og i morgen – kan de have andre hjul og de eftersamlede har generelt for lange hjul aksler.
En original Herbie — Det vindue der mangler har en under kant inde i bilen hvis den er original og rigtig pæn… Farven er den korrekte VW Perlehvid. Der er desværre lavet en del hjemme lavede så man må være rigtigt påpasselig med den model… OG det kræver en del gode billeder.Jeg vurdere ikke biler i almindelighed, det er der rigtigt mange andre der gør. Men det kan give en ganske pæn timeløn, at sidde og undersøge det en times tid. Men i box, og solgt det rigtige sted, så vil Flemmings vurdering være stærkt konservativ. Forudsat at bilen er virkeligt pæn, original, komplet og i en lige så pæn original box. Er den skrammet vil den nok lande under 100 kr.
En Herbie model vil finde interesse hos samlere af VW bobler, Herbie film entusiaster, Film bil samlere, Tekno samlere mf.Ja jeg vil sige at der sælger Tobias noget skrammel. Den er også godt hjemme malet… Ser du ved siden af klistermærket der står 1-43 på neden under. Som jeg nævnte så den vinge ud til at være knækket af og limet på…. DET ER DEN OGSÅ, tydelig revne ved klistermærket…. Den samlede verdi på den flyver er -0- for der er knapt nok en reserve del.
Man skal fannnn passe på især på DBA og Gul og Gratis, der sidder nogen og sælger hvad som helst som pænt originalt og iorden, med lidt dårlige, eller mangel fulde billeder. Fotos skal ses rigtigt godt efter, og bed om flere hvis de ikke er tilstrækkelige.
Kan se han også notere den som 1-43… Den er 1:80 så den passer faktisk perfekt til de små LEGO biler, og byplaner, der har samme skala. Til nød HO dog lidt for stor fordi korrekt HO er 1:87…
Yes — DKW started the 4 rings.. They did buy Audi only to sell the engines, to others, and Horch to get in to the luxury marked, and was told to take Wanderer, by the bank and the nazis. Later mr. Rasmussen, still Dane, was squished out of his busenis. He started the small truck thing under the name Barkas. Moved to Flensburg after the WWII, and then to DK, Bellahøj.
After WWII DKW started up in 1949/50 in west.
In DDR the old factories became IFA, trabant, Wardburg and MZ motorcycles, Trabant made in the Horch factory.
Old BMW car became EMW. (From Bayrischer Motoren Werke to Eisenach Motoren Werke)Brochure photos… F7 like the F8.. Design not like the toy car, and all pre WWII. The F7 and F8 did not have a rear opening. To get in to the boot you flipped the rear seat. The cars was made of wood and fabric.
Brochure photo… F9 (F91) not the same design at all. post WWII
(IFA came out as the F9)Driving a AUDI you need thes book from the VW. “Rad Der Zeit” about all that DKW things
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Det hurtige svar er – nej OG mærkerne er generelt mindre – Men som Peter altid siger – Man kan jo aldrig vide ! 😉
En grundig gennemgang og granskning med lup og lys vil måske afsløre at den er malet om. Ting der normalt ikke er malet er måske malet fx. hjul mv.
Det er jo en meget interessant model. Kan vi se nærmere på haleroret ? der hvor det sidder til flyet. Og selve bag vingen oven på.
Den virkelige KZ blev der kun fremstillet to af. Det vil i min verden være lidt underligt hvis Tekno skulle fremstille en som din. Jeg kan faktisk ikke en gang se ideen som prototype.
Jeg kan derimod se en ide i at reparere en der har knækket haleror af, og derved på et brugbart legetøj ud af den. Er den ene foreste vinge revnet, eller limet på igen ? det ligner en revne på foto?
NO — DKW F7 or the later F8
You can google them, for pictures.
They were small cars similar in size to the Austin 7, or Bantam car, but longer because of the front wheel drive. They had open fenders (not closed) They did not have side boards and they had A, B and C, posts, but is as Coups too.
The car here on the site is US inspired.
We have heard of the BP car called DKW but we have never seen it. Is it just a story? or is it a fact?The DKW, was cheap cars. Just before WWII DKW made a production ready prototype F9 that was to replace the F8 and it was in direct competition with the VW beetle. It came after WWII first as IFA producing both F8 and F9 at the same time. The DKW model made in western Germany came somewhat later (1950)with the name 3=6, and ended up being in prices like the Opel Rekord.
The funny story is that one of the people who started DKW after the war was named Piëch by name. His wife was born Porsche. Their son became head of DKW in the United States. DKW was renamed by Mercedes-Benz to AUDI and taken over by VW. Piëch became head of AUDI then the entire VW group and invented the words for AUDI “Vorsprung durch Teknik” But thats other stories.
En entusiast VW — barndoor 1953-61 skala 1:70 — LEGO
Den findes også som varevogn.En gammel Bedford system bil, skala 1:80 uden vinduer — Kun 1956 første serie til ESSO de er uden huller bagerst (den deler bund med flyttebilen men den var ikke opfundet endnu da denne tankbil kom ud. De to små huller er til flyttebilens bagdøre)
Lego samle vejledninger… Nævn sæt nr. og søg her.. Eller et tilfældigt nr. så dukker der noget op…Leger man lidt med de forskellige informationer så kommer der en instruktion og der kommer også en liste over dele.. Tror den er klik bar hvorefter dele kan bestilles direkte, hvis man mangler nogen.
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